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On gay lawyers and their...gay...lawyeriness
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mangaroo and I made a deal: I tell her PW spoilers and she makes Phoenix and Miles Sims for me. But I'm not sure about the whole aspiration thing (where the choices are Wealth, Knowledge, Family, Popularity, Romance, or Pleasure), so I figured I would tell the story of the gayest lawyers who ever gayed lawed were, and then we could talk about the Sims thing.
(For reference, character pictures and profiles are here.)
Once upon a time, there was aprince budding young attorney named Phoenix Wright. Phoenix just recently became a lawyer and started working for the Fey & Co Law Offices, headed by a very, very busty woman named Mia Fey. Having studied law "on the side" while majoring in art at college, it's perhaps not a surprise that Phoenix knows very little about actually practicing law. (However, it IS a surprise that he managed to pass the bar exam [was it multiple choice?] and get hired.)
Unfortunately, just after winning his first case (in which his old friend Larry is acquitted of murder), Mia is killed. The suspect turns out to be Mia's younger sister, Maya, and the prosecuting attorney one Miles Edgeworth, who is rumored to be a heartless machine willing to do anything to get a guilty verdict, even forge evidence. Whatever Edgworth is doing, it's working, as he hasn't lost a case since becoming a prosecutor at the tender age of 20. (If you think he's a prodegy, wait until you meet Franziska.) It seems Our Hero knows Edgeworth, though he won't say how they met. Eventually, Maya is acquitted, earning Edgeworth his first loss and Phoenix a new assistant to help him solve cases. Maya practices the Kurain Channeling Technique, which means she can call on the spirit of Mia whenever Phoenix is in a pinch. In addition, Maya is talented at...um...eating hamburgers, and...liking sentai shows. But she's a big help! Really!
Maya's er...talent leads Phoenix to his next case: defending Will Powers, star of the popular kids' show Steel Samurai. This case is significant in that 1. Steel Samurai (and the fact that Edgeworth secretly loves it) becomes something of a running gag in the Ace Attorney universe. (What do I call this. PWverse? AAverse? Gyakuverse?) 2. An ancient security guard named Wendy Oldbag falls madly in love with Edgeworth, aka "Edgey-boy" or "Edgey-poo" (becoming another running gag). 3. When Phoenix is about to lose the case, Edgeworth starts helping him, thus convicting the true murderer and winning an acquittal for Powers. Also, after this case, we get the first hints of Phoenix and Edgeworth's angsty past:
Edgeworth: I'm a big fan of your work, Mr. Powers.
[Okay, that's not angsty past, it just cracks me up. XD]
Phoenix: (Liar!)
Edgeworth: ...
Wright.
I must say, I hadn't expected to meet you again after all these years.
Maya: Meet "again"...?
Edgeworth: However.
In retrospect, it would have been better had we not met.
Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary... feelings.
Phoenix: Unnecessary feelings?
Edgeworth: Yes. Unease... and uncertainty.
Phoenix: Aren't those kind of necessary?
Edgeworth: They only serve to get in my way.
You listen to me, Phoenix Wright.
Don't ever show your face in front of me again.
That's what I came here to tell you.
Will: Umm... Mr. Wright
Is... this guy your friend?
Maya: What? Friends? As if!
They're rivals! Rivals! Right, Nick?
Phoenix: For now we are... I guess.
But before Phoenix and Edgeworth have a chance to slowly work out their problems, Edgeworth is accused of murder. The victim is Robert Hammond, who had been the defense attorney in an old case known as "The DL-6 Incident"--the murder of Gregory Edgeworth (yep, Miles' father). Oh, and did Phoenix forget to mention that ol' Gregory used to be a defense attorney, and that Miles, as a boy, wanted to follow in his father's footsteps? An unintentional oversight, I'm sure. Anyway, in the course of investigating, Phoenix begins learning details about DL-6: fifteen years ago, Gregory, Miles and a court bailiff were trapped in an elevator by an earthquake, long enough that they began to run out of oxygen and go a little crazy. During a struggle between Gregory and the bailiff, the gun went off and Gregory was killed. The bailiff and Miles were unconscious when they were found, and the bailiff swore he was innocent. There were no other suspects (plus Misty Fey--Mia and Maya's mother--channeled Gregory's spirit, who fingered the bailiff), but the bailiff managed to get off by pleading insanity. The incident also left Miles scarred for life; he never rides in elevators and earthquakes make him pass out. [Or is the elevator thing fanon? I can't remember for sure. The earthquake part is canon, anyway.]
Back to the matter at hand: Edgeworth is reluctant at first, but finally agrees to let Phoenix defend him in court. The prosecutor isobviously evil, just LOOK at him Manfred von Karma, a ruthless man with a spotless forty year record of guilty verdicts...who just happens to have been Edgeworth's mentor. As a matter of fact, he raised Edgeworth from the age of nine, when Miles' father was killed.
The trial goes pretty badly for the first two days, but somewhere in here, we get a flashback of how Phoenix and Miles met. The two of them (and Larry) had gone to the same elementary school, and one day Phoenix was accused of taking Edgeworth's lunch money. But Miles stood up for Phoenix, saying that there was no proof. After that, Phoenix, Miles and Larry (who also stood up for Phoenix because he was the real culprit) became good friends. But just a few months later, Miles moved away. (This, of course, was when Gregory was killed.)
Phoenix: It was several years later when I heard Edgeworth's name again.
There was an article about him in the newspaper.
The headline was something like "Dark Suspicions of a Demon Attorney."
Fabricating evidence, manipulating testimonies, covering up facts...
The article said he'd do anything to get a guilty verdict. Anything.
Butz: But why?
What happened!? I mean, that's not the Edgey I used to know at all!
Phoenix: That's what I thought too.
I tried to get in touch with him I don't know how many times...
He never replied.
Maya: I guess he didn't want to see his old friends...
Phoenix: I couldn't just drop it, though.
I wanted to meet him, to learn why he had become who he became.
That's when I decided.
Maya: ...!
Wait... You don't mean...?
That's why!?
That's why you became a defense attorney!? To meet Edgeworth!?
Phoenix: If I was a defense attorney, I knew he'd have to meet me whether he wanted to or not.
In court.
...
Edgeworth believed in me, and I believe in him.
He's in pain...And no one's on his side.
I'm the only one who knows the real Edgeworth. I'm the only one who can help him.
(At this point, I think Phoenix and Miles couldn't get any gayer without kissing on screen.)
On the third day of the trial, Phoenix shows that the murderer was, in fact, Yanni Yogi, the court bailiff who was accused of murdering Gregory Edgeworth in the DL-6 Incident. But Yogi is missing, so a verdict can't be declared. While the police search for Yogi, Phoenix investigates more, and some other things begin to come to light...namely that Edgeworth may have, in fact, murdered his own father. Edgeworth has had a recurring dream where he throws a pistol at Yogi to make him stop fighting with Gregory, and the dream ends with the pistol going off and a terrible scream...could the spirit of Gregory have lied about his killer to protect his son?
The next day, Yogi is brought back to the stand, and Phoenix proves that he was indeed the murderer. The judge is ready to declare a not guilty verdict...until Edgeworth objects, because he thinks he's guilty of killing his father. Phoenix, however, knows he's not, and proceeds to show that when Edgeworth threw the pistol, it went off and hit someone else--von Karma, who was standing outside the elevator. (It was his terrible scream that Edgeworth remembers.) Von Karma hated Gregory (because the single penalty he had received in his career had come when Gregory accused him of falsifying evidence), and after being shot, he went into the elevator and killed the unconscious Gregory. And as if that wasn't evil enough, he then adopted Miles, training him to be a prosecutor to spite Gregory, and always ready to accuse Miles of murder to protect himself. And so, Edgeworth is acquitted of both murders. Happy end, yay!
Incidentally, this case contains one of my favorite exchanges ever:
Phoenix: What was hs fiancee's name?
Judge: "Polly Jenkins"...
"Polly"!
Phoenix: Exactly, Your Honor!
He remembered the name of his fiancee who committed suicide.
That's why he named his parrot after her!
Judge: I see! I guess that is possible.
von Karma: Objection!
Bah! A mere coincidence, that's all!
My granddaughter has a dog she calls "Phoenix."
Well, Mr. Phoenix Wright? Does this make you my granddaughter's fiancee!?
She's only seven years old!!!
And then, later:
Phoenix: He used the date of the DL-6 Incident as the number for his safe, Your Honor!
That's how important that date was to him!
Judge: I see... It certainly is an interesting coincidence.
People often do set their secret numbers to dates.
von Karma: Objection!
Bah! This is not tangible proof!
I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!
This has nothing to do with a date! Nothing!
I hate von Karma for what he did to Edgeworth, but for those two brief moments, I love him SO MUCH. XD
That's pretty much Phoenix and Edgeworth's story. But there's some good stuff later, too:
Case 1-5 is fun because A. You get to investigate Edgeworth's office (Pink! Very pink!), B. Ema, the assistant for this case, is a big Edgeworth fangirl (in Apollo Justice, Ema makes a disapproving comment about Klavier as a prosecutor, and I personally I think it's a reference to this), C. Edgeworth is named King of Prosecutors (no, really, he even gets a ridiculous trophy XD), and D. Edgeworth ends up helping to prove that Phoenix's client is innocent, because he's starting to see that the truth is more important than his own record. (Words cannot express how much I love it when Edgeworth and Phoenix work together in court.)
For most of the second game, Edgeworth isn't around. In fact, he's presumed dead (by everyone but Detective Gumshoe) because he disappeared after leaving a note that read simply, "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death." But he comes back for the last case (he had been abroad,finding himself studying foreign law while he thought about what it means to be a prosecutor), in which Phoenix is representing an evil client (an assassin holds Maya hostage and threatens to kill her unless Phoenix gets a not guilty verdict). In the climax of the trial, Phoenix and Edgeworth both try to stall for time while the police search for Maya; hijinks ensue. (I really wish I had a script to quote here. ;_;)
In the third game, Edgeworth is once again overseas for most of the game. But when Larry calls to tell him that Phoenix has been hurt, he flies back in his private jet that night. It turns out that Phoenix survived a harrowing plunge into a raging river with nothing more than a cold, but while Phoenix is stuck in the hospital, Edgeworth helps out by investigating the crime scene (it's at this point that Gumshoe [jokingly?] calls him "Prosecutor Edgeworth, Defense Attorney") and then defends Phoenix's client in court. It doesn't last long, alas, but it's fun as all get-out.
re: Phoenix and Miles as Sims
I have a hard time with this, because I feel like their desires are so closely related to their workand each other. (They want justice! And the truth! And each other!) Since Edgeworth has spent so much time studying law, I would say that Knowledge is a good choice for him. And maybe...Wealth? He likes expensive cars, anyway.
As for Phoenix...um. None of them really seem right to me. Family? (Though that's getting into the Apollo Justice timeline.) Popularity maybe...he's well-liked, anyway. Pleasure? (I don't understand what that means, actually. >.>) I want to say Romance as a secondary aspiration, but will that make him chase after a lot of other people and be all flirty?
I dunno, I'm open to suggestion here.
mangaroo and I made a deal: I tell her PW spoilers and she makes Phoenix and Miles Sims for me. But I'm not sure about the whole aspiration thing (where the choices are Wealth, Knowledge, Family, Popularity, Romance, or Pleasure), so I figured I would tell the story of the gayest lawyers who ever (For reference, character pictures and profiles are here.)
Once upon a time, there was a
Unfortunately, just after winning his first case (in which his old friend Larry is acquitted of murder), Mia is killed. The suspect turns out to be Mia's younger sister, Maya, and the prosecuting attorney one Miles Edgeworth, who is rumored to be a heartless machine willing to do anything to get a guilty verdict, even forge evidence. Whatever Edgworth is doing, it's working, as he hasn't lost a case since becoming a prosecutor at the tender age of 20. (If you think he's a prodegy, wait until you meet Franziska.) It seems Our Hero knows Edgeworth, though he won't say how they met. Eventually, Maya is acquitted, earning Edgeworth his first loss and Phoenix a new assistant to help him solve cases. Maya practices the Kurain Channeling Technique, which means she can call on the spirit of Mia whenever Phoenix is in a pinch. In addition, Maya is talented at...um...eating hamburgers, and...liking sentai shows. But she's a big help! Really!
Maya's er...talent leads Phoenix to his next case: defending Will Powers, star of the popular kids' show Steel Samurai. This case is significant in that 1. Steel Samurai (and the fact that Edgeworth secretly loves it) becomes something of a running gag in the Ace Attorney universe. (What do I call this. PWverse? AAverse? Gyakuverse?) 2. An ancient security guard named Wendy Oldbag falls madly in love with Edgeworth, aka "Edgey-boy" or "Edgey-poo" (becoming another running gag). 3. When Phoenix is about to lose the case, Edgeworth starts helping him, thus convicting the true murderer and winning an acquittal for Powers. Also, after this case, we get the first hints of Phoenix and Edgeworth's angsty past:
Edgeworth: I'm a big fan of your work, Mr. Powers.
[Okay, that's not angsty past, it just cracks me up. XD]
Phoenix: (Liar!)
Edgeworth: ...
Wright.
I must say, I hadn't expected to meet you again after all these years.
Maya: Meet "again"...?
Edgeworth: However.
In retrospect, it would have been better had we not met.
Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary... feelings.
Phoenix: Unnecessary feelings?
Edgeworth: Yes. Unease... and uncertainty.
Phoenix: Aren't those kind of necessary?
Edgeworth: They only serve to get in my way.
You listen to me, Phoenix Wright.
Don't ever show your face in front of me again.
That's what I came here to tell you.
Will: Umm... Mr. Wright
Is... this guy your friend?
Maya: What? Friends? As if!
They're rivals! Rivals! Right, Nick?
Phoenix: For now we are... I guess.
But before Phoenix and Edgeworth have a chance to slowly work out their problems, Edgeworth is accused of murder. The victim is Robert Hammond, who had been the defense attorney in an old case known as "The DL-6 Incident"--the murder of Gregory Edgeworth (yep, Miles' father). Oh, and did Phoenix forget to mention that ol' Gregory used to be a defense attorney, and that Miles, as a boy, wanted to follow in his father's footsteps? An unintentional oversight, I'm sure. Anyway, in the course of investigating, Phoenix begins learning details about DL-6: fifteen years ago, Gregory, Miles and a court bailiff were trapped in an elevator by an earthquake, long enough that they began to run out of oxygen and go a little crazy. During a struggle between Gregory and the bailiff, the gun went off and Gregory was killed. The bailiff and Miles were unconscious when they were found, and the bailiff swore he was innocent. There were no other suspects (plus Misty Fey--Mia and Maya's mother--channeled Gregory's spirit, who fingered the bailiff), but the bailiff managed to get off by pleading insanity. The incident also left Miles scarred for life; he never rides in elevators and earthquakes make him pass out. [Or is the elevator thing fanon? I can't remember for sure. The earthquake part is canon, anyway.]
Back to the matter at hand: Edgeworth is reluctant at first, but finally agrees to let Phoenix defend him in court. The prosecutor is
The trial goes pretty badly for the first two days, but somewhere in here, we get a flashback of how Phoenix and Miles met. The two of them (and Larry) had gone to the same elementary school, and one day Phoenix was accused of taking Edgeworth's lunch money. But Miles stood up for Phoenix, saying that there was no proof. After that, Phoenix, Miles and Larry (who also stood up for Phoenix because he was the real culprit) became good friends. But just a few months later, Miles moved away. (This, of course, was when Gregory was killed.)
Phoenix: It was several years later when I heard Edgeworth's name again.
There was an article about him in the newspaper.
The headline was something like "Dark Suspicions of a Demon Attorney."
Fabricating evidence, manipulating testimonies, covering up facts...
The article said he'd do anything to get a guilty verdict. Anything.
Butz: But why?
What happened!? I mean, that's not the Edgey I used to know at all!
Phoenix: That's what I thought too.
I tried to get in touch with him I don't know how many times...
He never replied.
Maya: I guess he didn't want to see his old friends...
Phoenix: I couldn't just drop it, though.
I wanted to meet him, to learn why he had become who he became.
That's when I decided.
Maya: ...!
Wait... You don't mean...?
That's why!?
That's why you became a defense attorney!? To meet Edgeworth!?
Phoenix: If I was a defense attorney, I knew he'd have to meet me whether he wanted to or not.
In court.
...
Edgeworth believed in me, and I believe in him.
He's in pain...And no one's on his side.
I'm the only one who knows the real Edgeworth. I'm the only one who can help him.
(At this point, I think Phoenix and Miles couldn't get any gayer without kissing on screen.)
On the third day of the trial, Phoenix shows that the murderer was, in fact, Yanni Yogi, the court bailiff who was accused of murdering Gregory Edgeworth in the DL-6 Incident. But Yogi is missing, so a verdict can't be declared. While the police search for Yogi, Phoenix investigates more, and some other things begin to come to light...namely that Edgeworth may have, in fact, murdered his own father. Edgeworth has had a recurring dream where he throws a pistol at Yogi to make him stop fighting with Gregory, and the dream ends with the pistol going off and a terrible scream...could the spirit of Gregory have lied about his killer to protect his son?
The next day, Yogi is brought back to the stand, and Phoenix proves that he was indeed the murderer. The judge is ready to declare a not guilty verdict...until Edgeworth objects, because he thinks he's guilty of killing his father. Phoenix, however, knows he's not, and proceeds to show that when Edgeworth threw the pistol, it went off and hit someone else--von Karma, who was standing outside the elevator. (It was his terrible scream that Edgeworth remembers.) Von Karma hated Gregory (because the single penalty he had received in his career had come when Gregory accused him of falsifying evidence), and after being shot, he went into the elevator and killed the unconscious Gregory. And as if that wasn't evil enough, he then adopted Miles, training him to be a prosecutor to spite Gregory, and always ready to accuse Miles of murder to protect himself. And so, Edgeworth is acquitted of both murders. Happy end, yay!
Incidentally, this case contains one of my favorite exchanges ever:
Phoenix: What was hs fiancee's name?
Judge: "Polly Jenkins"...
"Polly"!
Phoenix: Exactly, Your Honor!
He remembered the name of his fiancee who committed suicide.
That's why he named his parrot after her!
Judge: I see! I guess that is possible.
von Karma: Objection!
Bah! A mere coincidence, that's all!
My granddaughter has a dog she calls "Phoenix."
Well, Mr. Phoenix Wright? Does this make you my granddaughter's fiancee!?
She's only seven years old!!!
And then, later:
Phoenix: He used the date of the DL-6 Incident as the number for his safe, Your Honor!
That's how important that date was to him!
Judge: I see... It certainly is an interesting coincidence.
People often do set their secret numbers to dates.
von Karma: Objection!
Bah! This is not tangible proof!
I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!
This has nothing to do with a date! Nothing!
I hate von Karma for what he did to Edgeworth, but for those two brief moments, I love him SO MUCH. XD
That's pretty much Phoenix and Edgeworth's story. But there's some good stuff later, too:
Case 1-5 is fun because A. You get to investigate Edgeworth's office (Pink! Very pink!), B. Ema, the assistant for this case, is a big Edgeworth fangirl (in Apollo Justice, Ema makes a disapproving comment about Klavier as a prosecutor, and I personally I think it's a reference to this), C. Edgeworth is named King of Prosecutors (no, really, he even gets a ridiculous trophy XD), and D. Edgeworth ends up helping to prove that Phoenix's client is innocent, because he's starting to see that the truth is more important than his own record. (Words cannot express how much I love it when Edgeworth and Phoenix work together in court.)
For most of the second game, Edgeworth isn't around. In fact, he's presumed dead (by everyone but Detective Gumshoe) because he disappeared after leaving a note that read simply, "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death." But he comes back for the last case (he had been abroad,
In the third game, Edgeworth is once again overseas for most of the game. But when Larry calls to tell him that Phoenix has been hurt, he flies back in his private jet that night. It turns out that Phoenix survived a harrowing plunge into a raging river with nothing more than a cold, but while Phoenix is stuck in the hospital, Edgeworth helps out by investigating the crime scene (it's at this point that Gumshoe [jokingly?] calls him "Prosecutor Edgeworth, Defense Attorney") and then defends Phoenix's client in court. It doesn't last long, alas, but it's fun as all get-out.
re: Phoenix and Miles as Sims
I have a hard time with this, because I feel like their desires are so closely related to their work
As for Phoenix...um. None of them really seem right to me. Family? (Though that's getting into the Apollo Justice timeline.) Popularity maybe...he's well-liked, anyway. Pleasure? (I don't understand what that means, actually. >.>) I want to say Romance as a secondary aspiration, but will that make him chase after a lot of other people and be all flirty?
I dunno, I'm open to suggestion here.
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In retrospect, it would have been better had we not met.
Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary... feelings.
and
Edgeworth believed in me, and I believe in him.
He's in pain...And no one's on his side.
I'm the only one who knows the real Edgeworth. I'm the only one who can help him.
(They smooch in my head.)
I think your Miles choices are excellent. I, too, thought that they needed Justice, but Maxis wasn't thinking about our needs when they coded the game.
Romance = lust. multiple partners. Icky, not to be recommended.
Family = focus on single partner and offspring. If I "join" SimPhoenix and SimEdgeworth, SimPhoenix will eventually have the desire to adopt.
Popularity = befriend lots and lots of other Sims.
Pleasure = likes to have fun. Plays games with other Sims, juggles, jumps on the couch.
And don't forget Grilled Cheese. Though that sounds like a Maya aspiration.
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No way! It just took me forever to write this. (What's new?)
(They smooch in my head.)
You, me, a thousand other fangirls...
I specifically included quotes to show you how canon their love is. If I had just summarized it, it probably would have sounded like I was embellishing their feelings.
Sounds to me like Phoenix's aspirations should be Family and Pleasure. (Maya's would be Grilled Cheese and Pleasure. In that order.) When he wants to adopt, he can get a little girl and name her Trucy.
If I "join" SimPhoenix and SimEdgeworth
If? If?
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One last question before I set up the Gyakuverse this weekend: Japanese or English names?
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Oh, English names. I toss around terms like "narumitsu" and "gyakusai," but even when I'm reading doujinshi or manga, I still think of them with English names.
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I can't wait for posts about the Phoenix-Edgeworth family sim!
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I know about the disbarment
Eh, didn't everyone know about that?
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Thanks for the detailed intro; was wondering about it. "Hijinks ensue" FTW. XD
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I highly recommend the games if you have the chance. They are TONS of fun. XD
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PS: haven't played 3 since finished the Tres Bien case .. trying to diligently waste time--er, I mean review Little Darling instead. >_> (Notice how I am procrastinating..)